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Old 12/30/2008, 09:09 AM
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Default EU slaps 87% tariff on Chinese fasteners

OK, so if the Europeans can get tougher on China's unfair trade practices why can't/won't the US?

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OK, so if the Europeans can get tougher on China's unfair trade practices why can't/won't the US?

http://http://www.industryweek.com/R...rticleID=18109
Because they hold about a trillion dollars of U.S. debt?

Here's an even more interesting question. Who has been responsible through their actions or lack of actions for the death of more Americans, the destruction of more property in America and doing the most damage to the American economy and the influence of America in the World, Osama Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda or George Walker Bush and the Republican Party?

Astonishing question, isn't it? The real answer is, both working in concert if not intention.
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The real answer is, both working in concert if not intention.
Just in case the implication of that last line is not clear, that we cannot afford to allow our passions to cause us to treat what merely amounts to stupidity, ideological blindness or even criminality of our fellow citizens as the acts of enemies here is a related point:

Unrest Caused by Bad Economy May Require Military Action, Report Says
Monday 29 December 2008

by: Diana Washington Valdez, El Paso Times

A new report warns that economic and civil unrest could lead to military intervention. (Photo: Getty Images)
El Paso - A U.S. Army War College report warns an economic crisis in the United States could lead to massive civil unrest and the need to call on the military to restore order.

Retired Army Lt. Col. Nathan Freir wrote the report "Known Unknowns: Unconventional Strategic Shocks in Defense Strategy Development," which the Army think tank in Carlisle, Pa., recently released.

"Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities ... to defend basic domestic order and human security," the report said, in case of "unforeseen economic collapse," "pervasive public health emergencies," and "catastrophic natural and human disasters," among other possible crises.

The report also suggests the new (Barack Obama) administration could face a "strategic shock" within the first eight months in office.

Fort Bliss spokeswoman Jean Offutt said the Army post is not involved in any recent talks about a potential military response to civil unrest.

The report become a hot Internet item after Phoenix police told the Phoenix Business Journal they're prepared to deal with such an event, and the International Monetary Fund's managing director, Dominique Strauss-Khan, said social unrest could spread to advanced countries if the global economic crisis worsens.

Javier Sambrano, spokes-man for the El Paso Police Department, said city police have trained for years so they can address any contingency, but not with the military.

"The Quantcast police (department) trains on an ongoing basis as part of its Mobile Field Force Training," Sambrano said. "As a result, the police will be able to respond to emergency situations, such as looting or a big civil unrest. The police (department) does not train with soldiers."

Earlier this year, Pentagon officials said as many as 20,000 soldiers under the U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM) will be trained within the next three years to work with civilian law enforcement in homeland security.

Joint Task Force-North, a joint command at Biggs Army Airfield, which conducts surveillance and intelligence along the border, comes under NORTHCOM. No one was available at JTF-North to comment on the Army War College's report. NORTHCOM was created after the 9-11 attacks to coordinate homeland security efforts.

Soldiers under the former Joint Task Force-6 (now JTF-North) supported the Border Patrol in El Paso with its drug-interdiction operations.

In case civilian authorities request help or become overwhelmed, El Paso has several National Guard and military reserve units that can be called on. In 1992, National Guard and active Marine and Army units were deployed to help police control riots and looting in Los Angeles.

Charles Boehmer, political science professor at the University of Texas at El Paso, was skeptical about the Army War College report.

"The military was not called out during the Great Depression, and I don't think our economic problems are as bad as they were then," he said. "The military always has contingency plans. It's a think tank's job to come up with scenarios, but that doesn't mean it represents an active interest on the part of the (Pentagon)."
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It looks like Marx may have been right. The lower class WILL develop "revolutionary tendancies" after the upper 1% have all the money in a capitalist society. Look what we are becoming! I do agree about Chinese trade imbalance there should have been something done about it in W's first term.
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If the US Army War College reports that they may need to utilize Federal troops to quell a civilian “unrest”, they already have the legal support for this action, thanks to Bush/Cheney and their obedient pets in Congress. Read the following exerpts from an article in The Guardian (London) dated 24 April 2007 that concerns the US shift towards a fascist state :

“And here is where the circle closes: most Americans do not realise that since September of last year - when Congress wrongly, foolishly, passed the Military Commissions Act of 2006 - the president has the power to call any US citizen an "enemy combatant". He has the power to define what "enemy combatant" means. The president can also delegate to anyone he chooses in the executive branch the right to define "enemy combatant" any way he or she wants and then seize Americans accordingly.”

More from this article:

“The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 gave the president new powers over the national guard. This means that in a national emergency - which the president now has enhanced powers to declare - he can send Michigan's militia to enforce a state of emergency that he has declared in Oregon, over the objections of the state's governor and its citizens.
Even as Americans were focused on Britney Spears's meltdown and the question of who fathered Anna Nicole's baby, the New York Times editorialised about this shift: "A disturbing recent phenomenon in Washington is that laws that strike to the heart of American democracy have been passed in the dead of night ... Beyond actual insurrection, the president may now use military troops as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, terrorist attack or any 'other condition'."”

If you really want to be scared out of your undergarments, read the entire article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment

Very creepy. This is what we get for voting the GOP into total control of the Executive and Legslative branches. Now we just did it again, only this time the Democrats.

It may be time to invest in a home in Panama and move your bank accounts to Grand Cayman.
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It may be time to invest in a home in Panama and move your bank accounts to Grand Cayman.
There is no refuge, period. Panama? You mean the place the U.S. invaded and occupied not so long ago? The Cayman Islands? A place not much bigger than say Grenada?

Humanity is reaching a point of no return, where we must either mature or perish. Personally, I vote for maturity.
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